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i think people are taxed to death and i don't mind two-tier health care if you want it, pay for it. i understand it. but you know, and we have general health care up here. but, you know, it's going to cost a fortune for you to put in this obama care. and i don't see how the people will afford it. >> the mayor was invited to talk about sports. >>> and now to a warning to computer users around the world. more than 2 million facebook, google and twitter passwords have been stolen. online networks have disabled affected passwords and that's tonight's speed read. >>> why do the democrats tell us things they know aren't true. >> remember what he president said? if you like your insurance, you can keep it. >> if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan, period. >> what he said was true. >> okay. >> if you want to keep the insurance you had, you can keep it. >> you know that one's not true. and so do they. maybe they should call this guy. >> i got a letter in the latter part of october from florida blue and they told me that by the summer of 2014 i'm going to have
i think people are taxed to death and i don't mind two-tier health care if you want it, pay for it. i understand it. but you know, and we have general health care up here. but, you know, it's going to cost a fortune for you to put in this obama care. and i don't see how the people will afford it. >> the mayor was invited to talk about sports. >>> and now to a warning to computer users around the world. more than 2 million facebook, google and twitter passwords have been stolen....
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trace gallagher has the story. >> reporter: the tax is called a reinsurance fee. it's on nearly every health plan for the first three years, meant to raise about $25 billion over the three years to help pay for people with pre-existing conditions. if the change is approved nobody would be exempt next year. in 2015 and 2016 groups that act as their own insurance companies and their own claims processors would be exempt to unions that self-insure would greatly benefit. republican senator orin hatch says it certainly looks like the obama administration is looking at a special deal for unions which is deeply concerning given the problems that all americans are facing due to obama care. now the unions argue this is not aimed at them. it's not nearly enough. the laborers union says, again quoting, as the new regulations offer no substantive relief for our health care plan the laborers union will continue to look for opportunities to fix this egregious tax on our members and their families. remember, the unions fought to help the president get elected and fought to pass
trace gallagher has the story. >> reporter: the tax is called a reinsurance fee. it's on nearly every health plan for the first three years, meant to raise about $25 billion over the three years to help pay for people with pre-existing conditions. if the change is approved nobody would be exempt next year. in 2015 and 2016 groups that act as their own insurance companies and their own claims processors would be exempt to unions that self-insure would greatly benefit. republican senator...
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i think people are taxed to death. you know, i don't mind two tier healthcare if you like healthcare you pay for it i understand that. but, you know, and we have general healthcare up here or old hip we call it. but, it's going to cost a fortune for you guys to put in this obamacare. i don't see how the people are going to be able to afford it, to tell you the truth. >> mayor ford was invited to the radio show that talk about sports. urgent warning to computer users around the world. more than two million facebook, google and twitter pass words have been stolen. in response to the giant hacking. online networks have disabled the effective pass words and that's tonight's speed read. >>> and now why do the democrats keep telling us things they know aren't true? >> remember what the president said, if you like your insurance you can can keep it. >> if you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan. period. >> what he said was true. >> okay. if you want to keep the insurance you have, you can
i think people are taxed to death. you know, i don't mind two tier healthcare if you like healthcare you pay for it i understand that. but, you know, and we have general healthcare up here or old hip we call it. but, it's going to cost a fortune for you guys to put in this obamacare. i don't see how the people are going to be able to afford it, to tell you the truth. >> mayor ford was invited to the radio show that talk about sports. urgent warning to computer users around the world. more...
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plus, did russian diplomats steal your tax dollars? by scamming the system to get medicaid benefits? there are brand new charges out today, and what until you hear what they're accused of buying with their own money while claiming to be broke. let's get to it. >> good thursday afternoon to you and yours. we're expecting
plus, did russian diplomats steal your tax dollars? by scamming the system to get medicaid benefits? there are brand new charges out today, and what until you hear what they're accused of buying with their own money while claiming to be broke. let's get to it. >> good thursday afternoon to you and yours. we're expecting
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so that tax is coming for sure. additionally, if you're a small business and you made some capital investments this year, you were getting a nice little tax deduction. starting next year your taxes will shoot up. if you make new product purchases to sustain your business, the government is raising your taxes and that is coming in 2014 and that's going to be the cbo says that's going to account for half of all new revenue next year. so, businesses are going to take it very hard starting -- >> they're at least 14 other ancillary fees going in, airline security fees, transportation fees and that's going to hit a lot of people no matter where they are in the income range. right? >> that's right. absolutely. and right now, you have senator patty murray and representative paul ryan, who have been squirreled away -- everyone has been distracted with other issues but these two lawmakers have been negotiating the budget deal for next year, and in washington, when things are quiet, that usually means something is happening, a
so that tax is coming for sure. additionally, if you're a small business and you made some capital investments this year, you were getting a nice little tax deduction. starting next year your taxes will shoot up. if you make new product purchases to sustain your business, the government is raising your taxes and that is coming in 2014 and that's going to be the cbo says that's going to account for half of all new revenue next year. so, businesses are going to take it very hard starting --...
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and january, who loses their doctors and april, who is 15ed by the man date tax. and next summer, when all of the insurance companies up their rates and if young people don't go in the system and subsiddize all of the rates will go up before the election. i think it is a disaster for the democrats. >> and marjorie, does it? you throw in the employer man date. >> it could be that we see a lot of the benefits that are mapped out and it is a misnomer to say that people are losing the insurance. most major employers have the health care that hold the tenants in face. it will be individuals and small businesses that will see the change. but looking at the system, everyone of us insurance or not are at risk of the health care system failing. it is designed hopefully to benefit the whole of the american public. in two years or 2016, what is the memory of the american public look like and how is it all playing out. >> johnathon, what is the chances of the republicans regaining the senate. >> the congressional balance test question and weather where they are asked if they
and january, who loses their doctors and april, who is 15ed by the man date tax. and next summer, when all of the insurance companies up their rates and if young people don't go in the system and subsiddize all of the rates will go up before the election. i think it is a disaster for the democrats. >> and marjorie, does it? you throw in the employer man date. >> it could be that we see a lot of the benefits that are mapped out and it is a misnomer to say that people are losing the...
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we'll take personal and corporate tax down to 5%. bring the payroll tax down for the worker and employer. and we'll reduce the red tape and let businesses thrive. we'll invite entrepreneurs from around the country and around the world who want to come to detroit and make it like a mini hong kong. there are great things you can do the. it's amazing how much money accumulates not from other parts of the country but just from detroit's tax base if you don't take it to washington. you leave it in detroit. >> you're saying you will reduce the personal tax liability to 5%. can you do that? you're senator rand paul, one senator. how do you accomplish -- i like the idea. i'm asking how you accomplish it. >> well, if i were president obama i would do it by edict. i'm just a senator so we have to pass it as legislation and get the president to sign it. i can tell you now there is not a lot of enthusiasm for the traditional type of bailout. i don't think that will pass the house of representatives. i think my plan, if democrats would look at it
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cheney called the tax one of the dumbest ideas i heard. i feel strongly about it and i am walking a round proof of how great and innovative our health care system has been and i can't imagine anything worse. it is an example of ill conceived parts of the program are. in the decades battling heart disease. he's had two pacemakers and a stint. >> those innovations kept him alive and especially when he goes back to age 35 with heart issues. robert gibbes said someone has to go for the botched roll out. >> we are{you should someone be fired and if so why? 140 characters or less. tweet at bill hemmer. >> and to me at alisyn camerota. we'll read those later. >> and the release of the terrible 911 calls from sandy hook massacre nearly one year ago. >> incredible video, the police officer in a fight of his life with a man who turned out to be a murder suspect. >> battle over obama care. and how will this impact the 2014 midterm election. >> my message is going back. that seems to be the alternative that obama care critecs have. go back to the stat
cheney called the tax one of the dumbest ideas i heard. i feel strongly about it and i am walking a round proof of how great and innovative our health care system has been and i can't imagine anything worse. it is an example of ill conceived parts of the program are. in the decades battling heart disease. he's had two pacemakers and a stint. >> those innovations kept him alive and especially when he goes back to age 35 with heart issues. robert gibbes said someone has to go for the...
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taxes will go up because the bill will be massive. they will force young people to buy in and employed people to pay more, period. they have to. >> penny? >> under the existing system we were paying for the young and healthy to get into a car wreck and go into the mrnl room. taxpayers were already paying for it. for them to have affordable health care at a base minimum of what the package could be, some of it could be $50. it will be able to lessen the burden. >> a young person would rather have catastrophic care with with a high deductible because odds are they aren't going to get sick at a young age. if they got cancer or this a car accident they would be covered. this doesn't give them the option. >> it does, if they sign up. >> no, it doesn't. >> if they sign up at the base level, yes. they are able to have catastrophic coverage. >> why are people losing coverage they like? it doesn't meet the, quote standards in the law. >> there is an improved standard. >> you have to take the plan -- >> you're making my point. lots of people ga
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there are no tax increases here. and point number three, we are finally starting to deal with auto pilot spending. the mandatory spending that has not been addressed by congress for years. this isn't easy. this is the first divided budget agreement since 1986. the reason we haven't done a budget agreement when both houses were controlled by other parties is because it is not easy to do. so we are not going to get everything we want, and she won't get everything she wants [ inaudible question ]. >> i think we will pass this to the house and we'll go first given our schedules in the house, we will post this on our website today, this evening and we intend to bring it to the house floor later on this week. i have every reason to expect great support from our caucus because we are keeping our principals. the key is here nobody had to sacrifice their core principles. our principles are don't raise taxes an reduce the deficit. and we have concerned members about defense. the next hit from the sequester would hit solely on
there are no tax increases here. and point number three, we are finally starting to deal with auto pilot spending. the mandatory spending that has not been addressed by congress for years. this isn't easy. this is the first divided budget agreement since 1986. the reason we haven't done a budget agreement when both houses were controlled by other parties is because it is not easy to do. so we are not going to get everything we want, and she won't get everything she wants [ inaudible question ]....
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he is about lowering taxes and keeping taxes low. he is going after education who in new jerseyç or any place el doesn't agree needs to be ramps up. and keeping texas down. more of us keeping more of our money. >>ç conservatives don't love h for a variety of reason ares. the questions that i asked chris too, do conservatives have something toç learn? >> i have to say, i have always said that chris christie is the one that i'm most concerned about regardless of who is on thatç platform with a d on the chest. we saw with romney even though he was a mormon and a lot of the more christian conservatives im, at the end of the day you have a democrat and a republican they will put their support to chris christie. but i think he has great appeal in new jersey and heç should. i'm not sure they go dgoing to transcend on a national level. i think he will have some problem with the gay vote which is a vastç growing politicaly force in america. >> and it is all about the beginning of the race called the primaries as well. >> right now
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tax reform and tort reform. >> make it attractive. come on. >> health savings accounts. which are tax-free dollars, so if you decide you want to go to a chiropractor and your health insurance doesn't cover that, your money can go to pay for that rather than the government. >> that's a funny thing. you're right. a free market idea is incredibly simple. it works in every other industry, but it's overcomplicated by thousands of pages of bureaucratic nonsense that keeps people in their professions. >> rather than try and say what's your other idea, we had another idea. it could have been helped and fixed. it was a free market solution, free market health care. >> which was? >> which is what we were doing before. there needed to be some tweaks to it. >> look at bob. >> remove the ban from -- if you're an insurance company in new jersey, you can't sell it in new york. that is ridiculous and stupid. so you move some of those. hold on. >> sorry. >> what's your other alternative, there are plenty of them out there. i don't think any of them are that good. i think the original sys
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lower corporate tax rates. really get the economy moving again. not unemployment benefits. companies. that's what everyone's missing here. maybe this will do the republican house members some good if they extend it. maybe it'll help get them re-elected. i think the bigger issue is we need an economy that creates lots and lots and lots of jobs. >> that's become the new norm, has it not, vera? >> it is. a total disservice to the americans who are out of work. all of these people, one in three of the unemployed are long-term unemployed. they have a big problem. they need real jobs. by extending the benefits you're just delaying the inevitable. they need good paying, solid jobs. >> you had cited a report in the commercial break that said people mostly go out to look for a yob in the final week of when their money is going to run out. >> when they have to. >> there was research from allen krueger, head of the president's own national council of economic advisers. he did impeer cal work that said it extends the duration of unemployment and that people spend three times as much ti
lower corporate tax rates. really get the economy moving again. not unemployment benefits. companies. that's what everyone's missing here. maybe this will do the republican house members some good if they extend it. maybe it'll help get them re-elected. i think the bigger issue is we need an economy that creates lots and lots and lots of jobs. >> that's become the new norm, has it not, vera? >> it is. a total disservice to the americans who are out of work. all of these people, one...
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there will be no tax reform. there will be no significant deficit or debt reduction period. this is steady as she goes, just keep on going the way we're going now and don't rock the boat and no shutdown. bill: wonder if that could even pass in the house. we'll see. the headline underneath it is what for consumers? >> long suffering air travelers will take a big hit. bill: really? >> yes. it is proposed one of the small details in this deal, there is likely a proposal to extract an extra $25.9 billion from air travelers over the next 10 years. eight billion of that would go to take care of security. 18 billion would go towards deficit reduction. but airline travelers who take the hit, bill. bill: didn't see that one coming. the president wants to extend unemployment benefits. is that a deal-maker or a deal-breaker? >> it could be a deal-breaker depending how hard the president pushes and how hard democrats push for it in the senate and in the house. at the moment, come january, 1.3 million people who are receiving unemployment benefits now will be cut off. the president wants
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your plan period to the long list of political promises proven untrue along side read my lips, no new taxes. the phrase isn't going away and the story line isn't going away. young people are leaving in droves. >> the if you like your health care you can keep it quote, harry reid has revived the debate the president told the truth all along. >> there were thousands of people that found out that was not actually possible. >> but i still go back and say what i said earlier. what he said was true. >> okay. >> if you want to keep your insurance you have, you can keep it. >> reid staring at a difficult battle to keep control of the senate in 2014 could be trying to reframe a sore point with voters. he says many health plans have changed in the last few years. he says the president was telling the truth at the time of the promise. carney had no interest in reengaging. >> i think the president has spoken about this at length and repeatedly and taken action on this. i don't have anything to add to that. >> reid put the white house on defense over the position to exempt some of the staff from enrolli
your plan period to the long list of political promises proven untrue along side read my lips, no new taxes. the phrase isn't going away and the story line isn't going away. young people are leaving in droves. >> the if you like your health care you can keep it quote, harry reid has revived the debate the president told the truth all along. >> there were thousands of people that found out that was not actually possible. >> but i still go back and say what i said earlier. what...
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policies can be put in place, growth policies, tax cuts, corporate taxes being cut to get that growth going so everybody has an equal shot at prosperity. martha: let's take a look at some of these numbers. just verbally -- 1 per when asked what's the most important issue to you? 1% of the 18-29-year-olds thought that was important. jobs, unemployment rate, 7.3%. we note labor participation rate is historically low and continues to be so. americans on disability up three times since 1983. we throw more money at education, doug, than we have ever in the history of this country and we have seen what's happening to our test scores. i think the president is getting at the middle class. improving the state of the middle class. but i don't know raising the minimum wage and increasing early childhood education is the ticket. >> i think those are good things to do. i'm a democrat. but the issue is what monica came to at the end of her brief presentation. the answer is growing an economy to give everyone a chance to get ahead. the american people are angry there is no real chance to work hard,
policies can be put in place, growth policies, tax cuts, corporate taxes being cut to get that growth going so everybody has an equal shot at prosperity. martha: let's take a look at some of these numbers. just verbally -- 1 per when asked what's the most important issue to you? 1% of the 18-29-year-olds thought that was important. jobs, unemployment rate, 7.3%. we note labor participation rate is historically low and continues to be so. americans on disability up three times since 1983. we...
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canceled coverages, sticker shock in the form higher premiums and dramatically higher deductibles and tax increases that will lead to higher cost for other things. >> you bring up when he spoke, that the republicans didn't have any alternatives. and frankly, that was just false. he may not like the ideas. maybe they were bad. there were alternatives out there. he just says that. and he cannot possibly believe that. he may not like them. they may be bad ideas but that's a lie. >> well, i don't think they're bad ideas. that's the arrogance. if he doesn't like it, he dismisses it. >> and i think that at least in their world, there is one way to do this and only one way to do. this it is obama care. and it is a failed system built upon a faulty foundation. and now we're seeing the real life impacts of that. there are republican ideas that are out there. we have a lot of members who would love to have the opportunity to debate those if we could get that chance. it means the president will have to acknowledge this isn't working and get back to the drawing board. we would be more than willing to
canceled coverages, sticker shock in the form higher premiums and dramatically higher deductibles and tax increases that will lead to higher cost for other things. >> you bring up when he spoke, that the republicans didn't have any alternatives. and frankly, that was just false. he may not like the ideas. maybe they were bad. there were alternatives out there. he just says that. and he cannot possibly believe that. he may not like them. they may be bad ideas but that's a lie. >>...
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. >> i owned restaurants and i pay taxes on it. it causes unemployment. >> what do you say to people who lose jobs? >> listen to me. >> that doesn't help. minimum wage has nothing to do with it. >> the increase is 5% in the last 35 years. this is not america. >> we have already doubled. >> this is america. i'm proud of my country. >> we have doubled the number of people on food stamps. >> you are against filibusters. >> here's the problem. what is jamu going to say to people who lose the jobs? >> section 8 housing, food stamps. >> when you pay a minimum wage -- >> no, raise the cost of products and people buy fewer. >> people on a poverty wage, they have to get food stamps. they have to be on medicaid. >> there will be fewer people employed. sean hannity, go to mcdonald's, wendy's and say who in line the to buy hamburger wants to pay additional money for it? it will raise the price of the burger. >> you will lower the amount of people on food stamps. you will lower -- >> you're making it up. >> this is a fact. >> you're not looking
. >> i owned restaurants and i pay taxes on it. it causes unemployment. >> what do you say to people who lose jobs? >> listen to me. >> that doesn't help. minimum wage has nothing to do with it. >> the increase is 5% in the last 35 years. this is not america. >> we have already doubled. >> this is america. i'm proud of my country. >> we have doubled the number of people on food stamps. >> you are against filibusters. >> here's the...
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we need higher taxes on everybody and socialism works. but socialism has starved people. and he's bragging about how we need more of that. >> another one is sean penn. >> i don't cover sean penn. you bring up surprises here on this show. maybe he at least lives the life. >> we don't know. >> he goes oven isaiah la where -- venezuela. >> do you think the celebrities is more leftist or more vocal, like a closet group of republican celebrities out there? >> more leftist than abc news? >> why? >> i think it's because people want to do what their peers do and be comfortable. but also they, like we, they get a paycheck. most of them have never tried to build anything. rob snyder, the actor, tried to start a business, life long democrat. he said i'm leaving california. the laws are terrible. >> and john lovett tried to open up a store and he saw all the regulations. it was backlash to him. >> also they're good looking. maybe they got a job through a lucky audition. they think life is run by luck and therefore -- >> they feel guilty. i got to give stallone and the rock credit bec
we need higher taxes on everybody and socialism works. but socialism has starved people. and he's bragging about how we need more of that. >> another one is sean penn. >> i don't cover sean penn. you bring up surprises here on this show. maybe he at least lives the life. >> we don't know. >> he goes oven isaiah la where -- venezuela. >> do you think the celebrities is more leftist or more vocal, like a closet group of republican celebrities out there? >> more...
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sticker shock in the form of higher preyums and higher divuk tillables and obviously tax increases that are going to lead. he also said last week that the republicans didn't have any alternatives. and, frankly, that was just false. he may not like republicans' ideas. he says that and he can't possibly believe that. you know, he may not like them and they may be bad ideas. but that's just a lie. >> i don't think they are bad ideas. >> no, no. but you understand my point. that's the arrogance that i don't get. if he doesn't like it, they dismiss it even exists. >> right. i think that at least in their world, there is one world to do this and only one way to do this and it's obamacare. and it's a failed system built upon a faulty foundation and now we are seeing the real life impacts of that. there are republican ideas that are out there. we have a lot of members who would love to have a lot of opportunity to debate those if we could get that chance. but it means that the president is going to have to acknowledge that this isn't working and go back to the drawing board. we would be more th
sticker shock in the form of higher preyums and higher divuk tillables and obviously tax increases that are going to lead. he also said last week that the republicans didn't have any alternatives. and, frankly, that was just false. he may not like republicans' ideas. he says that and he can't possibly believe that. you know, he may not like them and they may be bad ideas. but that's just a lie. >> i don't think they are bad ideas. >> no, no. but you understand my point. that's the...
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there's no tax reform. no plan for economic growth. there's no plan for empowerment. bottom line the white house is talking redistribution. the republicans are talking no. and the american people are sitting there saying, what's in it for us. >> and doug if you're a 25-year-old, right, if you have a job, you're paying tax to pay for social security that you don't believe you'll ever collect a penny of. you're now paying into a health care system that you don'tyou n. medicare, medicaid. no wonderer they feel hopeless. >> i'm seeing a lot of that on twitter. this gentleman calls himself strawman. he says forget obama. can america reverse down ward spiral. gop, dnc, both focused on winging at the expense at the united states. >> that's what most people in america think. and today i got a quote sent to me and it says republican and free government would be an obvious absurdity if the particular checks in controls provided by the constitution had no real influence for the public good. and that is what we have now. this is what we have -- we have two parties who they care o
there's no tax reform. no plan for economic growth. there's no plan for empowerment. bottom line the white house is talking redistribution. the republicans are talking no. and the american people are sitting there saying, what's in it for us. >> and doug if you're a 25-year-old, right, if you have a job, you're paying tax to pay for social security that you don't believe you'll ever collect a penny of. you're now paying into a health care system that you don'tyou n. medicare, medicaid. no...
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the conclusion here is it's like at the end of the year owing taxes. saying didn't i pay enough through the year? in this instance, it's if i didn't pay enough, i'm going to owe more? it's not going to go well if insurance companies calculated improperly. >> we'll see if you can argument with the fact that the government will come back and tell you what you should have charge and tell you if they're tight. i sense another argument down the line. thank you for joining us. >> appreciate it. >>> 19 minutes after the hour. look at this, planes looking more like toys, tossed around in the strong wind. this morning passengers are telling their horror stories. >>> and rick reichmuth is live 300 feet in the air. why? because he wanted to, it's for a great cause to ring in the holiday season. right, rick? >> yeah. exactly. and it's been chaos for the last three minutes. i hope the chaos isn't a sign of something that's about to come. cashman is about to go over on the other side of the break i'm joining him. stay with us. i'll be right back. ♪ ♪ it's the oa
the conclusion here is it's like at the end of the year owing taxes. saying didn't i pay enough through the year? in this instance, it's if i didn't pay enough, i'm going to owe more? it's not going to go well if insurance companies calculated improperly. >> we'll see if you can argument with the fact that the government will come back and tell you what you should have charge and tell you if they're tight. i sense another argument down the line. thank you for joining us. >>...